Tuesday 10 May 2011

Rivals250

Ok I'm pretty sure Chris Wormley didn't make the top 250 players in on rivals rankings, so hence forth I will no longer be using them! That's outrageous!

EDIT:

Sheldon Day was also excluded from the top 250, I'm not even sure how that's possible. I've never been that big a fan of rivals anyway, but these latest rankings are so bad that they've actually caused me to reject their service completely.

Congratulations to 247 Sports, who now become my 3rd best website for evaluations! (ESPN and Scout are 1 & 2).

28 comments:

  1. Benji, is that anger I sense from you?. Also per Tom VH, Standifer rescheduled his visit for this upcoming Thursday, since he is now getting further attention.

    He got offers from N.Dame, Syracuse & Minnesota this week. We will see how it plays. I don't even bother with rivals anymore. 247sports has replaced them on my list.

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  2. Yeh, just tweeted about Standifer, going to do a post later.

    Yeh I'm angry, Rivals can shove it! No Sheldon Day in the top 250 either? What the hell is up with that?

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  3. You're not imagining things. Also,Terry Richardson at 195 and Jordan Diamond at 209? RJS is listed 87 next to Adolphus Washington and James Ross is 143 yet some sites list Ross higher than RJS, not 56 spots removed. I like them both, but I'm still calling shenanigans here. They basically barfed up an NCAA bracket here.

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  4. Royce is a good player, he's got a lot of potential. But Ross is the better prospect right now in my book; he played hurt last year and still turned in great production.

    But because RJS is one inch taller, CLEARLY he's better!

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  5. Benji, Rivals is a AWESOME site. Probably the most accurate recruiting site available. I suggest anger management classes for ya.

    Just messing with you Benji, just a joke. Memo to all: Drop rivals.com of gtfo !

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  6. Pretty much re-posting but,

    How is Wormly considered by many the #1 prospect in Ohio, yet doesn't male these lists?

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  7. Rivals said he doesnt show up every play and doesnt dominate like a kid with his athletic ability...

    Basically they need a MIDWEST RECRUITING ANALYST

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  8. Rankings aside because they are clearly crap on Rivals, the one thing these young men have or will have in common is that they will all be Wolverines. They will be well coached, developed to their fullest potential and in many cases drafted.......Many in the top 250 will not.

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  9. They know those kids are all Michigan bound, and can't stand MI having a top 10 class, haters everywhere we go. Go blue!

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  10. Are we in legit position for Elijah Shumate or is he considered a longshot at this point.

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  11. Was reading a ESPN post by Tom Luginbill on Michigans recruiting.. He says we have 3-4 recruits n the top 150 grade range

    Also of note he says we havent even offered all of the top rated local prospects... I wonder who they have rated high that we dont have offers out to especially local guys

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  12. @UMFAN
    Recruits or commits

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  13. 3-4 commits already he named the 3 LB RJS Stone and Bolden

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  14. We could easily have as many as 3 5*'s on scout. The top 50 eventually get a 5th star and as of right now Diamond is at 40, Day is at 64, and like Benji mentioned Ross is at 72 despite being injured last season and could move up once healthy.

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  15. Good old ESPN, I knew they wouldn't let me down. 3-4 Commits in the top 150 would be really good right now.

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  16. http://mgoblog.com/diaries/tomvh-michigan-prospects-rivals-250

    This is a much more positive outlook of the 250 alot of elite prospects we don't hear much about are visiting this summer so there is still a chance.

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  17. Benji, I am watching espn college football live. They are doing a round table on the top 25 teams. Are you as surprised that Michigan in not in the top 25. I am conpared to some of the teams in there.

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  18. Reading todays Rivals 250 chat and they really dont like Wormley

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  19. I'm confused why I continue reading the Rivals.com doesn't have midwest recruiting analysts. They have two. On a similar note, it would be interesting to take a look at Rivals.com rankings of players that have already verbally committed to Ohio State (one of Rivals.com midwest recruiting analyst's admitted favorites). The other midwest recruiting analyst at Rivals.com is from Joliet, IL but I don't know where his B10 loyalties lie - be it Illinois, Northwestern, or otherwise. I suppose it's possible he could be a Notre Dame lean.

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  20. Jer89 you cant really expect us to be in the top 25 with a defense that was 1 of the worst in the nation and transitioning to a new offense and defense

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  21. Hi Benji! I've been following your blog since we hired Hoke and company. I'm a huge UofM fan from L.A. who used to lived near AA for 2 years and attended many games during and before with my ex for about 10 years. I’m currently married to someone from that side of the pond (Dublin) and I’m slowly converting him to "American" football. LOL! Thank you so much for your insightful updates on recruiting as it's been very exciting to say the least! I'm so glad to have found a site that does not have the all the bickering comments from RR supporters or trolls from our rivals! Keep up the great work and I'm dead impressed by your timely updates given the time difference!! :) Also, thanks to all the posters for keeping your comments relevant!!

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  22. UMFAN if you look at some of the teams in the top 25 Michigan could have been in there.

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  23. Done with Rivals! Wormley,Day not ranked and TR that low is stupid. I respect Rivals as much as I do those cheating inbreds at OSU.

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  24. Hi Monique, glad you're enjoying the blog. I've been trying to convince my friends that 'American' football is better than soccer for ages, but it's a lost cause!

    @Jer, I don't think you could put Michigan in the top25, because we don't know how much the defense will improve by, and the offense looked shaky in the spring game.
    Generally I don't think that there are that many good teams in college football this year.

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  25. Ive been saying for awhile T Richardson shouldnt be evaluated as that good.. Hes short thats 1 of the big things I have been saying for awhile and he's not as fast as you need to be ..So I feel he was rated where he should be maybe even a lil to high

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  26. The real test of TR will be when he goes down to the Under Armor All American game, there he'll have to deal with some of the top WRs in the nation.

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  27. Benji, you do good comprehensive coverage here and your enthusiasm towards Michigan recruiting is nice to read.

    All that said, I'm wondering if the extremely positive view of where UofM is at is warranted right now. For instance, you say that that "3-4 Commits in the top 150 would be really good right now. " and that we have a top 10 class or at least the potential start of one. I take a far more pessimistic view (though I prefer to call it realistic, its an eye-of-the-beholder thing...)

    Consider that in 2009 we had 7 recruits in ESPN's top 150 and now we'll have only 3, with something like half the class already complete. Rivals had us with 13 recruits in their top 250 in that year and now we have only 3 (according to both Rivals and 247). I know you're not a fan of Rivals rankings but even if you add in, say, Funchess, you're still a long ways away from what Rodriguez did in his one season without transition, and there aren't that many scholarships left to hand out right now.

    With Pike and Kiel looking unlikely to join up, we're looking (probably) at a 3-star QB. Plus maybe Godin committing soon - now you're talking about a dozen commitments and no true blue-chippers and only 3-5 guys who are considered top 250.

    Not that its a bad start (I'm pretty happy with it for a first real class by Hoke after the 2011 class debacle), just that this seems like a typical Michigan class. The class seems pretty standard for what we've seen for nearly the last decade (besides the 2011 class, which stunk rankings-wise). Generally, we get mostly people who are 3 or 4 star caliber with a couple of blue-chippers mixed in - usually local guys (e.g. Brandon Graham), but not always (e.g. Denard Robinson). We usually beat MSU, WVU, Illinois and those type of programs and sometimes we beat OSU, Notre Dame, etc to get elite local guys or some national players.

    I'm not seeing anything different now. Isn't this shaping up as just another typical Michigan class?

    I guess the argument is that the remaining scholarships will be used more selectively for elite prospects? I hope so, but I thought that before and Ojemudia and Brown both seem like 3-star caliber players based on their offer lists.

    Just wondering on your rationale for being so high on the class. Don't get me wrong, I'm content with the class and like Hoke's direction with the program, but I just don't see a top 10 class shaping up here yet. I'm seeing more of a typical class in the range of 15th in the country, given the roster needs (OL&TE) and available scholarship numbers (17-22). Tell me why (if) I should expect more?

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  28. yeah I agree with you on that, I never thought that Chris Wormley was going to make it to the top 250 players in on rivals rankings



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